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    just to say thank you for the racing on july 15 scnax thingy

    hello everyone.
    it was good talking with ya and meeting new people, the main reason for me to continue to come back to try again.
    i was classified a novice/newb. and a group called csp. driving the 2001 audi tt. i want to try it again and have some questions cause i want to be in the right place and not hurt anybody feelings if i lose to them. i heard on the loud speaker my car was a twin turbo..... it is actually a single turbo that doubles as a whistle. anyways my car looks like it is modified but it is mostly for attention to promote my company. the audi tt is called that way in honor of the isle of man racing. or tt could be from it having tiny turbo either way it works. so the question is next time i go out and race i wonder were i would fit in.
    my car is....
    1. running street tires.
    2. has a cold air intake system.
    3. has had the ecu re-programmed/flashed.
    4. the springs have been upgraded, the shocks are stock.
    5. increased the size of the intercooler.
    6. the rear wing is for aesthetics. i dont think any effect happens before 80 mph.
    thats it as far as modifications go.
    so now you know what the tt stands for and maybe you can place me in a class. my other question is i was given th enumber 1024. will that be my number next time or random lottery each time unless i sign up for it. thanks for reading and again thanks for the fun.
    paul
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    The wing puts you in SSM if your car is a two seater.

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    The TT actually stands for Tourist Trophy. And it's not just the Isle of Man. The Tourist Trophies were a prestigious series of races throughout the British Isles. Many people think the Isle of Man TT stands for Time Trial, which is untrue. And you are correct, the Audi TT only features a single Turbo, and not all even have that.

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    Increasing the size of the intercooler is SSM.

    You were given a four digit number because you purchased a weekend pass and not a permanent number (what we call a Solo Card). That temp four digit cost you 5.00, but it's good for a credit when you buy your permanent number, which will be three digit. We have a book with available numbers. Once you have your permanent number, it's ten dollars to renew it at the end of each year, as long as you do so between Oct 1 and Dec 31. Forget to renew, you pay full price (25) after Jan 1.



    nalbar
    'Go slow to go fast' they say'. Heh. Trust me...... when it comes down to the fast ones? They go fast to go fast.
    .

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    was not sure exactly what the tt stood for just new it was associated with the isles. the car is a 2 seater but has tiny back seats, so maybe a 2 + 2 would they call it?
    ok so probably SSM is the class i will be in the future. i forgot to mention the engine size is a 1.8L it is the baby of the 2 versions, one is 180hp the other 225hp i think. just to make sure, wing plus intercooler = SSM class. also i want to ask if you have to belong to one group or another. i dont want hurt to people feelings or create a feud or something. does a group bid on a new member?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nalbar View Post
    Increasing the size of the intercooler is SSM.

    You were given a four digit number because you purchased a weekend pass and not a permanent number (what we call a Solo Card). That temp four digit cost you 5.00, but it's good for a credit when you buy your permanent number, which will be three digit. We have a book with available numbers. Once you have your permanent number, it's ten dollars to renew it at the end of each year, as long as you do so between Oct 1 and Dec 31. Forget to renew, you pay full price (25) after Jan 1.



    nalbar
    dont get me wrong i love the number . together they add up to lucky 7. 1+0+2+4=7, i was just wondering if i should save the tape for the next race.

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    If you have rear seat belts, then the car is in SM, unless your car is front wheel drive, then it is in SMF. It's those little mods like the wing and intercooler that don't really do much (but add up when maximized and combined with other allowed mods) that put you in a much higher class.

    Quick partial cut and paste from the rules:

    STREET MODIFIED (SM):
    All sedans/coupes (models which were originally equipped with a
    minimum of four seats and four factory seat belts, not sports car
    based).

    STREET MODIFIED FWD (SMF) – Supplemental Class
    All front-wheel-drive vehicles

    SUPER STREET MODIFIED (SSM):
    a. All two-seat cars...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -W- View Post
    If you have rear seat belts, then the car is in SM, unless your car is front wheel drive, then it is in SMF. It's those little mods like the wing and intercooler that don't really do much (but add up when maximized and combined with other allowed mods) that put you in a much higher class.

    Quick partial cut and paste from the rules:

    STREET MODIFIED (SM):
    All sedans/coupes (models which were originally equipped with a
    minimum of four seats and four factory seat belts, not sports car
    based).

    STREET MODIFIED FWD (SMF) – Supplemental Class
    All front-wheel-drive vehicles

    SUPER STREET MODIFIED (SSM):
    a. All two-seat cars...
    yikes it is more and more complicated. i do have 4 seats with belts. it is a quattro, all wheel drive. i am out for fun, the class is just something i personally want to be able to gauge myself. i do appreciate all the input. i downloaded the class book but it is somewhat out of my vocabulary.

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    If you want to have fun then skip all that classing bs and put an x with your numbers. With an x you can take passengers too.
    Dark Blue 99 Miata and a Galaxy Gray 08 MX5. SCCA, PCA and BMW #105

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    As mentioned, you could run the local X or time only classes. Autocross is heavily weighted towards driver skill so if you come out enough times, you'll have an idea who you're competitive with. You'd be surprised how long two old or new drivers in vastly different cars can compete against one another. We're potentially talking years. If you want to look at it car-wise, I think your car with some mods removed can be classed in STC which means you would have had to run 63-64's to be competitive with those fast Civics on Sunday. Yeah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by racer05 View Post
    yikes it is more and more complicated. i do have 4 seats with belts. it is a quattro, all wheel drive. i am out for fun, the class is just something i personally want to be able to gauge myself. i do appreciate all the input. i downloaded the class book but it is somewhat out of my vocabulary.
    Not complicated at all. In fact, you just hit the jackpot! Like Walter said, four seat belts means SM, and that is WAY better than SSM. Locally SM is weak, leaning to the EXTREMELY weak side, and close to SO FREAKIN' WEAK GRANMA ON A SCOOTER could win there.

    You should absolutely run SM, get some instruction, and kick the poo out of the slowpoke that has been there so long he has put down roots.


    nalbar
    'Go slow to go fast' they say'. Heh. Trust me...... when it comes down to the fast ones? They go fast to go fast.
    .

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    [QUOTE=nalbar;28218]Not complicated at all. In fact, you just hit the jackpot! Like Walter said, four seat belts means SM, and that is WAY better than SSM. Locally SM is weak, leaning to the EXTREMELY weak side, and close to SO FREAKIN' WEAK GRANMA ON A SCOOTER could win there.

    You should absolutely run SM, get some instruction, and kick the poo out of the slowpoke that has been there so long he has put down roots.

    well the class is spoken i like the help all of you have given. i will be racing next time for the win. haha. i actually am proud of myself for not hitting cones my first time out, that was my biggest concern. now to build a better line through em and be smoooooooooth. i would like to apply for induction into the scnax club so i can help a brother out. send me the paper work. thanks again and see you next time august 26th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -W- View Post
    As mentioned, you could run the local X or time only classes. Autocross is heavily weighted towards driver skill so if you come out enough times, you'll have an idea who you're competitive with. You'd be surprised how long two old or new drivers in vastly different cars can compete against one another. We're potentially talking years. If you want to look at it car-wise, I think your car with some mods removed can be classed in STC which means you would have had to run 63-64's to be competitive with those fast Civics on Sunday. Yeah...
    i know those civics hall arse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racer05 View Post

    well the class is spoken i like the help all of you have given. i will be racing next time for the win. haha. i actually am proud of myself for not hitting cones my first time out, that was my biggest concern. now to build a better line through em and be smoooooooooth. i would like to apply for induction into the scnax club so i can help a brother out. send me the paper work. thanks again and see you next time august 26th.
    There is no paperwork to join, but you do have to lend your car to all the members. Prima nocta and all that.

    Meanwhile, hitting cones, while it won't win you any races, is usually not a bad sign per se. Some of the fastest guys out there have a pretty high percentage rate of "dirty" runs. Usually around 30+%. Not that that numbers means anything, but it makes sense when you think about it. When you're pushing to get as close as possible to apex cones or driving at 10/10ths, things can get messy!
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    Paul,

    Hank is wrong...hitting cones is bad. Also, is your shift key broken? Always use proper punctuation or it's the same as hitting cones. Welcome and your car looks great by the way!
    Dark Blue 99 Miata and a Galaxy Gray 08 MX5. SCCA, PCA and BMW #105

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Thompson View Post
    Paul,

    Hank is wrong...hitting cones is bad. Also, is your shift key broken? Always use proper punctuation or it's the same as hitting cones. Welcome and your car looks great by the way!
    thanks for the car comp. and about the shift key i will have to go check? was it making a funny noise while on the course?

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    He meant the shift key on your computer keyboard. You past post was sketchy. You edited the quote and messed up. No big deal. However, because it was my quote you messed up I now get to drive your car.


    nalbar
    'Go slow to go fast' they say'. Heh. Trust me...... when it comes down to the fast ones? They go fast to go fast.
    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by nalbar View Post
    No big deal. However, because it was my quote you messed up I now get to drive your car.


    nalbar
    And because I pointed it out...I get to ride with Warren when he drives Paul's car.
    Dark Blue 99 Miata and a Galaxy Gray 08 MX5. SCCA, PCA and BMW #105

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