Great event!

[Mazda_Gremlyn]

I throroughly enjoyed yesterday's event, and the course was great, albeit longer than we usually run. I actually liked the slightly longer course and it didn't cause any time delays either. Thanks to all my fellow SCNAXers out there for working so hard on this too :)

[froggy47]

I concur, we seem to be putting on great events towards year end, several in a row.

The plusses 4 runs, long, good technical elements with multi driving lines ( or I should say 1 good line and room to make mistakes if you wish :)

The minuses, can't think of any.

Thanks SCNAX.

Oh, just curious, was there time for any fun run's? I left (having run in the AM) because I figured there might not be due to darkness? Did I miss out?

[nalbar]

no time for fun runs Bob. we ended about 4:15, maybe a little after. that leaves just 30 minutes for tear down before dark.



nalbar

[frosty]

The plusses 4 runs, long, good technical elements with multi driving lines ( or I should say 1 good line and room to make mistakes if you wish :)

The minuses, can't think of any.

I agree. Thanks for putting this on, SCNAX.

The two friends I brought along had a blast and want to come back (1004 Grey Lancer and 1007 Porsche 944; both first run group). I felt I made some big improvements as well in my technique (next stop, Novice School).

I was sticking around to get a chance to do a fun run, but it looked like it wouldn't happen so I left.

P.S. I saw woodrufj's subtle Dakota driving up I-5 north later around 7:30. You guys weren't still on site cleaning up things out until 7 or so, were you?

[froggy47]

[QUOTE=frosty]and 1007 Porsche 944; both first run group). /QUOTE]

I was working the top of the course & myself and the other workers thought we could hear something not quite good when the 944 was shifting, like transmission or drive line noise.

It's a pretty car very clean, is the driver/owner aware of any mechanical issue the car might be having or maybe they all have that sound? There are not many around that get driven hard so we were not sure if it was a normal sound or not.

[woodrufj]

P.S. I saw woodrufj's subtle Dakota driving up I-5 north later around 7:30. You guys weren't still on site cleaning up things out until 7 or so, were you?That was after the pizza and beer.

Jay W
505/287 Dakota

[mastercylinder]

Fantastic event!

I was very happy with the course and found it had more technical features than many drivers may have been used to. I did hear a few moans from the vettes, but they didn't ask for their money back, so it couldn't have been too bad! I especially liked the section coming back down the hill before the slolom. :)

The morning session was very light, but the afternoon filled up nicely. Boy did we need that to keep the event from being a lo$er!

Some positives I noted:
- Great job having results posted right after each heat. Great work from the timing and scoring staff.
- More than a few NEW people were exposed to the timing and scoring computer worker position.
- Our Friday night SCNAX no-rain-dance worked!
- A first-time event chair kept the event rolling nicely.
- Registration seemed to flow nicely. No cards to sell, so that was convenient.
- More positive comments on the SCNAX championship trophies.
- SCNAX members answered all the volunteer calls.
- Separate radio channels for grid, starter, trailer and gate was a GOOD thing.

Some negatives:
- There appeared to be more delays during the heats than I would have liked. some were clock-operator issues and others were computer operator issues.
- 9:15am start.
- I didn't drive, so I could kick Jeff L's butt!

The rest of what could be said was that it was a typical SCNAX event...well run and relatively uneventful.

Great job to all the SCNAXers and the other non-SCNAX types that volunteered.

[X12]

The course was wonderful. I had loads of fun. Great job fellow SCNAXERS. You guys did a wonderful job. Haven't been out much but it's such a nice feeling to know I'm part of a great club. *Two Hands Up Here*

-Andrew

[frosty]

I was working the top of the course & myself and the other workers thought we could hear something not quite good when the 944 was shifting, like transmission or drive line noise.

It's a pretty car very clean, is the driver/owner aware of any mechanical issue the car might be having or maybe they all have that sound? There are not many around that get driven hard so we were not sure if it was a normal sound or not.

I've heard this comment from someone else as well. I've actually driven the car (it's my dad and he was driving it Saturday), and haven't noticed any major issues. There are two known mechanical issues though: one is that the muffler is still the original and needs to be replaced (that's why it sounds like a ricer just before redline when it shifts) and the other is gates on the shifter are a little hard to get into. The mechanic shop we go to have brought up that they can work on it, but it hasn't been a priority (trust me, when you turn on the A/C and suddenly 90 degree heat comes out of the vents, you make that a priority).

But yeah, all in all it's a 20 year old car that still runs well and generally has been taken care of. I remember being 3 or 4 when he got it and wanting to grow up and drive it, and I have had my fair share of fun in it. You'll probably see him out some in 2006, hopefully with a new muffler.

[Mazda_Gremlyn]

I don't know where you were Dave, but Mike was selling cards like a madman whenever I was at registration. He had a nice spiel cooked up and everything :D

[froggy47]

I've heard this comment from someone else as well. I've actually driven the car (it's my dad and he was driving it Saturday), and haven't noticed any major issues. There are two known mechanical issues though: one is that the muffler is still the original and needs to be replaced (that's why it sounds like a ricer just before redline when it shifts) and the other is gates on the shifter are a little hard to get into. The mechanic shop we go to have brought up that they can work on it, but it hasn't been a priority (trust me, when you turn on the A/C and suddenly 90 degree heat comes out of the vents, you make that a priority).

But yeah, all in all it's a 20 year old car that still runs well and generally has been taken care of. I remember being 3 or 4 when he got it and wanting to grow up and drive it, and I have had my fair share of fun in it. You'll probably see him out some in 2006, hopefully with a new muffler.


Now that you mention it, it could very well have been exhaust systen "buzz".

That's good, not so expensive to look after:)

[MX5bob]

I just want you guys to know I had a great time at work on Saturday. When it wasn't boring, it was tediuous. And the "big game" on TV wasn't interesting enough to make it any better. :(

[cshodges]

Very interesting course. I loved the part from the top of the hill to the finish. I've gotta learn to trust the R-comps and stop tapping the brakes. The tight turn near the police trailer up at the top of the course I could never get quite right.

Special thanks to the FSAE folks who volunteered 4 course workers for run group 3.

[Neal]

It was a fun event. Of course I have never not had fun:rolleyes:

I did have a couple of issues working the 6th run group though. It was way too long to be standing out in the cold:( . I think that was caused by course workers giving way too many re-runs due to downed cones. Another issue was that I was stationed at "5a", but I was so far from my radio guy, I had to yell to one worker for him to yell to the radio guy for +cones and DNFs. There was more than a couple of guys that got free cones because of the lack of communication.

[froggy47]

working the 6th run group though. It was way too long to be standing out in the cold:( .

Welcome to our bit of cyberspace:)

You should come up to a CSCC event @ Cailifornia Speedway in the winter and work the first or 2nd run group if you want to experience cold, we have an event this Sunday.
:D

[CentralCoaster]

It was a fun event. Of course I have never not had fun:rolleyes:

I did have a couple of issues working the 6th run group though. It was way too long to be standing out in the cold:( . I think that was caused by course workers giving way too many re-runs due to downed cones. Another issue was that I was stationed at "5a", but I was so far from my radio guy, I had to yell to one worker for him to yell to the radio guy for +cones and DNFs. There was more than a couple of guys that got free cones because of the lack of communication.


Had the same problem to some extent... had a hard time communicating +cones vs. nudged cones to the guy with a radio. But then again, I'm new. Had a great time though, was pleasantly surprised on how well all those damn cars got their runs in.

I think if my work group is last in the cold next time, I'll race my pickup instead, just to get in a different class. lol

[froggy47]

Had the same problem to some extent... had a hard time communicating +cones vs. nudged cones to the guy with a radio.


What a lot of guys do is go check/set the "nudged cone" and if it's not a penalty give the baseball sign for "safe" if it's a penalty just hold it up in the air til radio gives you a nod that he's got it.

Safety permitting of course.:)

[woodrufj]

had a hard time communicating +cones vs. nudged cones to the guy with a radio.Hand signals. Hold your hand up to indicate a hit, do a baseball like safe sign to say no cone. X over your head to indicate DNF.

Jay W
505/287 Dakota

[wolfgang]

[QUOTE=mastercylinder]Fantastic event!

I was very happy with the course and found it had more technical features than many drivers may have been used to. I did hear a few moans from the vettes, but they didn't ask for their money back, so it couldn't have been too bad! I especially liked the section coming back down the hill before the slolom.


:D
I was one of the C5 vettes. I had fun, just a little tight at the start and took a little differant driving style, The challenge is what makes it fun. Learned to little to late.
Next time Charlie!;)

[magicman]

Not trying to hurry things, just wondering.
Terry:)

[lost won]

Not trying to hurry things, just wondering.
Terry:)


Oh, why not hurry things? CalClub has been known to publish results on the web site by late the night of the event; and pictures the next day........

They have dedicated workers who audit the results as they happen, so that by the end of the event most of the results are official. It can be done...
Just a matter of how much we want to do it that way. It's all about volunteers.

[RandyC]

Yep. It is doable.

Getting the results is pretty easy as far as the software, the auditing takes longer. If we were willling to audit as the day went on, we could have results an hour after the event.

The present method relies too much on one person in my humble opinion. And if that person is busy or burnt out... or busily burnt out... then results start to get less attention. :)

[nino]

I'm pretty sure the results were audited real time at the last event. It's just a matter of getting the results posted.
-nino

[froggy47]

Yep. It is doable.

Getting the results is pretty easy as far as the software, the auditing takes longer. If we were willling to audit as the day went on, we could have results an hour after the event.

The present method relies too much on one person in my humble opinion. And if that person is busy or burnt out... or busily burnt out... then results start to get less attention. :)


What exactly does auditing the results mean? I know in cscc that each radio writes down the dnf, cone, clear status and each vehicle # at his/her post. Sort of like our sound monitor.

I assume that log is compared to master radio's log and that is the audit?

Or maybe it's something different?



How does the audit work in SDR since we do not have log sheets (like nationals or cscc) ? And is that how audit works at cscc?

[CentralCoaster]

[QUOTE=mastercylinder]Fantastic event!

I was very happy with the course and found it had more technical features than many drivers may have been used to. I did hear a few moans from the vettes, but they didn't ask for their money back, so it couldn't have been too bad! I especially liked the section coming back down the hill before the slolom.


There was one gate coming down the hill that was basically an unmarked dogleg, I blew that the first two trips through. Other than that, the course flowed well.

[LarryC]

What exactly does auditing the results mean?

Getting results out quickly is easy. Getting results out correctly require auditing all the paper trails. The following paper trails are generated during an event and should be check against the results before it's publish.

Pylon count sheets -
Verify cones, re-runs and DNFs are assigned to the proper car.

Sound limit sheets -
Verity runs over 93 dB are DSQ.

Timing sheets and time printouts (paper tape) -
Use mostly to reconstruct missed or mix-up times.

Worker signup sheets -
Verify everyone check in and DSQ those that did not work.

Entry Cards -
Verify class entered is the same as on the results.

Some of the auditing can be done at the event but it require one or more person be assigned to it all day long. If it don't get done at the event than someone has to gather up all the paper work and spend a few nights after the event to do it. The person doing the results is usually someone that is already very involve with putting on the event so I can see why they may not jump right on it after an event to audit the results so it can be posted quickly.

San Diego Region has a two week time limit on publishing the results after an event. If that is too long to wait than we can always change the rule. But be ready to volunteer to do the audit. :)

LarryC